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postrationality annotated bibliography

i recently ran a meetup on postrationality, and as it sometimes happens when i try to run a meetup on a very substantial topic, i ended up with a pretty extensive bibliography while i was trying to curate a small reading list for the attendees.

I don't consider myself a post-rationalist, for a few reasons. One, I'm generally in team "if it helps you win it is rationality". Two, I by-default get along with the median person who identifies as a rationalist, and by-default find the median person who identifies as post-rationalist to be... kind of annoying, and so this is a label that I don't think would be functionally useful for me. Three, people in the post-rat cluster who I genuinely admire seem to have some sort of understanding of the world that I don't, and until I get it, the label would feel somewhat like stolen valour?

That being said, off-twitter, the post-rats (and other people I uh, shove into that cluster but may not identify as post-rat themselves) do seem to write a lot of interesting and good work that I think is worth reading. I like the perspectives they have.

And to be clear, I've basically only engaged with their ideas via reading them over the internet; I haven't had substantive conversations with people who identify as post-rationalist (but I'm certainly open to it). And I expect that this bibliography is very idiosyncratic! I only read the people I read and don't read the people I don't. Probably it would be unusually helpful to rationalists who are postrat-curious but woo-shy and unusually annoying to actual people who identify as post-rationalists.

0. Invitations

Sometimes you need to give people a little push before they'll read something a little far-out.

The More the Merrier - John Nerst (2018)

In praise of fake frameworks - Valentine (2017)

1. David Chapman

Sort of like, the OG when it comes to the scene?

A bridge to meta-rationality vs. civilizational collapse (2016)

An Appetizer: Purpose (2010 )

Auxiliary:

2. Scott Alexander

Probably not a post-rationalist, but he dabbled a bit in the mid-2010s, including doing a series of wonderful book reviews on books by people who are into meditation, consciousness, and enlightenment.

Some particularly interesting book reviews: the mind illuminated (2018), mastering the core teachings of the buddha (2017), the origin of consciousness in the breakdown of the bicameral mind (2020).

He's also written two short stories I really like about enlightenment: universal love, said the cactus person (2015) and samsara (2019).

I also think the last paragraph of this post (2018) is really funny, and it's also an iconic read bc the guy that the post is about shows up in the comments to fight everyone.

yes, we have noticed the skulls (2017), on the flipside, is a good defense of rationality.

For more of Scott's writings on this subject, try poking around here. Other key words that could be useful to search for: meditation, englightenment.

3. Conversion Stories

title is tongue-in-cheek. post-rationalists talk about how/why they realized that materialist rationality is insufficient. the stories are unique, but often they rhyme.

Sasha Chapin writes several posts, including:

Kenshō (2018) - Valentine

Rationalists Should Meet Integral Theory (2021) - Elo

What it's like to suddenly start completely believing in god (2022) - Lydia Laurenson

4. Standalone Posts

A few posts on the subjects that post-rationalists like talking about.

Sneaking Past the Gatekeeper (2014) - Yearly Cider

Focusing for Skeptics (2017) - Duncan Sabien

Naturalism Sequence (2022) - Logan Strohl

How to Like Everything More (2024) - Sasha Chapin

Mythic Mode (2018) - Valentine

The Intelligent Social Web (2018) - Valentine

5. Some Currently Publishing Writers I Like Who Are Postrat. To Me

I have no idea whether or not they would identify as post-rationalist themselves! Sorry if you are finding yourself here and you don't :(

Sasha Chapin

Aella

Lydia Laurenson

6. Other People's Summaries

Rational Magic (2023) - Tara Isabella Burton

Post-Rationality: An Oral History (2025) - Gordon Seidoh Worley

A Postrationalist Syllabus (2023) - Eigenrobot

#longform #notes